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12. All new drains shall be built and carried out in accordance with the provisions of Ordinance No. 24 of 1887 and of any Bye-laws made thereunder and if no written notices as provided for by Bye-laws Nos. 1 and 11 shall have been given to the Board it shall be lawful for the Board on discovering the existence of any such new drain to call upon the owner to open and uncover the same for the purpose of inspection and should such new drain prove upon inspection to be defective either in respect of design, workmanship or materials it shall be so taken up and altered as to be made to comply with the Bye-laws.

13. Any person carrying out excavations for new drainage works on any premises contiguous to a public thoroughfare shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night.

13(1). Any person about to open any public road or street for the purpose of connecting any private drain shall give three clear days' notice in writing of such intention to the Surveyor General and shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night.

14. If by any new drainage works any cesspool previously existing shall be done away with such cesspool shall be cleaned out and filled in with good fresh earth.

15. All works connected with the construction of new drains shall be carried out in strict accordance with the plans and sections previously passed by the Board and all such works shall be carried out in a proper and workmanlike manner and with good materials of their respective kinds and shall be subject during their progress to the continuous supervision of the Officers of the Board appointed in that behalf and shall be completed in strict accordance with Ordinance No. 24 of 1887, and of any Bye-laws made thereunder.

16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 as before.

7th October, 1889.

Drafted by

DANBY & LEIGH,

HONGKONG, 19th December, 1889.

In reply to your letter dated 17th ultimo with reference to drainage bye-laws we can only suggest as follows :-

Clause 2.--One plan only necessary to accompany notice.

Clause 3.--Seven days' notice to be made three days. Approved plan to be kept by Sanitary Surveyor notice only being given that such plan is approved.

Clauses 4 and 5.--Unnecessary.

Clause 11.--Three days' notice too long.

Yours faithfully,

BIRD & PALMER.

HOGH MCCALLUM, Esq.,

Secretary, Sanitary Board.

HONGKONG, October 9th, 1889.

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I also think that some arrangement should be made about the method of draining the kitchens of the upper floors of Chinese houses other than the present system of earthenware down-pipes, and would suggest that they should be of metal, with distinct trapped and grated connections to each floor, or that the pipes should be of earthenware only between the different connections, and that a pattern connection should be made and kept in some part of the Office of the Sanitary Board where Contractors and others may see it.

I might suggest that a plan of the City of Victoria, showing the sewers, should be circulated amongst the Architects of the Colony, so that in cases of new drains being laid, the position of the sewers would be known.

H. MCCALLUM, Esq.,

Secretary to the Sanitary Board.

Yours faithfully,

A. DENISON.

3, BEACONSFIELD ARCADE, 5th November, 1889.

1. In reply to your letter No. 254 transmitting to me a copy of the Drainage Bye-laws made by the Sanitary Board and inviting my views as to the amendments in the same which I think might be made therein, I have much pleasure in complying with the request, with an expression of regret that my reply should have been, though unavoidably, delayed so long.

2. I should in the first place point out that the Ordinance itself (No. 24 of 1889) contains several sections which should have formed part of the Bye-laws; these sections (39 to 47, &c.) are, substantially, extracted from the Model Bye-laws promulgated by the Local Government Board (sections 61 to 65). These sections contain most important instructions to the Builder and House-owner who frequently have no access to the Ordinance and I would suggest that these be extracted and circulated with the Bye-laws. As these sections form part of the Ordinance I refrain from suggesting any amendments.

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3. The Bye-laws as they now stand appear to me to provide for drainage on the "Separate System" the principle of which as I understand is not yet accepted for this Colony. I cannot after much practical experience of both Systems but regard the absolute separation of sewage from surface water, in the City of Victoria generally, as a serious mistake considering the physical features of a large portion of the drainage area and the facilities for disposing of its drainage. I am satisfied that certain portions of the City drainage namely the lower levels should be treated separately and for this the sections I refer to (4, 5 and 6) might properly apply; but I presume that without most conclusive reasons being given in favour of such an experimental scheme that the Sanitary Board will recognize only the combined system now in use so far as house-drainage is concerned.

4. There appears to me throughout the Bye-laws some confusion as to whom the Owner has to satisfy, in some cases it would appear to be the Board in others the Sanitary Surveyor.

5. I have made detailed notes upon a copy of the Bye-laws which I have the pleasure to submit for the consideration of the Board as being more concise than stating the same here.

6. I would venture to suggest that the Board should in some convenient place prepare Models with the proper materials illustrating the application of each section of the Ordinance and Bye-laws where practicable; this would, I am certain, ensure compliance with the Bye-laws and give much needed instructions in the construction of drains and sanitary appliances.

7. Section 64 of the Ordinance appears to me to prohibit absolutely the use of water closets but if this is not so I think a Bye-law could be framed stating the conditions under which such would be permitted with a minimum of 19 gallons per head in winter and an unlimited supply of water at other seasons. I think one of the most objectionable sanitary features of the Colony might be disposed of, especially as a complete and economical water closet can be provided for less money than is now paid by such householder per annum under the present system. This would necessitate of course certain alterations in the main drainage of the City but which present no insuperable obstacle.

I have the honour to be,

Sir,

Your most obedient Servant,

DEAR SIR,

In answer to your letter of the 17th of September, I beg to make one or two suggestions with regard to the new Sanitary Bye-laws.

In the copy of the Bye-laws sent to me, there is no clause providing for any ventilating pipe to a private drain, although the pipes are mentioned in the said Bye-laws. I think a paragraph might be inserted to the effect that "All new drains shall be provided with an iron ventilating pipe such pipe to be connected to the drain at its highest point."

To

HOGH MCCALLUM, Esq.,

Secretary to the Sanitary Board,

&c.,

&c.

$0.

WM. ST. JOHN H. HANCOCK.

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12. All new drains shall be built and carried out in accordance with the provisions of Ordinance No. 24 of 1887 and of any Bye-laws made thereunder and if no written notices as provided for by Bye-laws Nos. 1 and 11 shall have been given to the Board it shall be lawful for the Board on discovering the existence of any such new drain to call upon the owner to open and uncover the same for the purpose of inspection and should such new drain prove upon inspection to be defective either in respect of design, workmanship or materials it shall be so taken up and altered as to be made to comply with the Bye-laws. 13. Any person carrying out excavations for new drainage works on any premises contiguous to a public thoroughfare shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night. 13(1). Any person about to open any public road or street for the purpose of connecting any private drain shall give three clear days' notice in writing of such intention to the Surveyor General and shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night. 14. If by any new drainage works any cesspool previously existing shall be done away with such cesspool shall be cleaned out and filled in with good fresh earth. 15. All works connected with the construction of new drains shall be carried out in strict accordance with the plans and sections previously passed by the Board and all such works shall be carried out in a proper and workmanlike manner and with good materials of their respective kinds and shall be subject during their progress to the continuous supervision of the Officers of the Board appointed in that behalf and shall be completed in strict accordance with Ordinance No. 24 of 1887, and of any Bye-laws made thereunder. 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 as before. 7th October, 1889. Drafted by DANBY & LEIGH, HONGKONG, 19th December, 1889. In reply to your letter dated 17th ultimo with reference to drainage bye-laws we can only suggest as follows :- Clause 2.--One plan only necessary to accompany notice. Clause 3.--Seven days' notice to be made three days. Approved plan to be kept by Sanitary Surveyor notice only being given that such plan is approved. Clauses 4 and 5.--Unnecessary. Clause 11.--Three days' notice too long. Yours faithfully, BIRD & PALMER. HOGH MCCALLUM, Esq., Secretary, Sanitary Board. HONGKONG, October 9th, 1889. 84 I also think that some arrangement should be made about the method of draining the kitchens of the upper floors of Chinese houses other than the present system of earthenware down-pipes, and would suggest that they should be of metal, with distinct trapped and grated connections to each floor, or that the pipes should be of earthenware only between the different connections, and that a pattern connection should be made and kept in some part of the Office of the Sanitary Board where Contractors and others may see it. I might suggest that a plan of the City of Victoria, showing the sewers, should be circulated amongst the Architects of the Colony, so that in cases of new drains being laid, the position of the sewers would be known. H. MCCALLUM, Esq., Secretary to the Sanitary Board. Yours faithfully, A. DENISON. 3, BEACONSFIELD ARCADE, 5th November, 1889. 1. In reply to your letter No. 254 transmitting to me a copy of the Drainage Bye-laws made by the Sanitary Board and inviting my views as to the amendments in the same which I think might be made therein, I have much pleasure in complying with the request, with an expression of regret that my reply should have been, though unavoidably, delayed so long. 2. I should in the first place point out that the Ordinance itself (No. 24 of 1889) contains several sections which should have formed part of the Bye-laws; these sections (39 to 47, &c.) are, substantially, extracted from the Model Bye-laws promulgated by the Local Government Board (sections 61 to 65). These sections contain most important instructions to the Builder and House-owner who frequently have no access to the Ordinance and I would suggest that these be extracted and circulated with the Bye-laws. As these sections form part of the Ordinance I refrain from suggesting any amendments. 58 3. The Bye-laws as they now stand appear to me to provide for drainage on the "Separate System" the principle of which as I understand is not yet accepted for this Colony. I cannot after much practical experience of both Systems but regard the absolute separation of sewage from surface water, in the City of Victoria generally, as a serious mistake considering the physical features of a large portion of the drainage area and the facilities for disposing of its drainage. I am satisfied that certain portions of the City drainage namely the lower levels should be treated separately and for this the sections I refer to (4, 5 and 6) might properly apply; but I presume that without most conclusive reasons being given in favour of such an experimental scheme that the Sanitary Board will recognize only the combined system now in use so far as house-drainage is concerned. 4. There appears to me throughout the Bye-laws some confusion as to whom the Owner has to satisfy, in some cases it would appear to be the Board in others the Sanitary Surveyor. 5. I have made detailed notes upon a copy of the Bye-laws which I have the pleasure to submit for the consideration of the Board as being more concise than stating the same here. 6. I would venture to suggest that the Board should in some convenient place prepare Models with the proper materials illustrating the application of each section of the Ordinance and Bye-laws where practicable; this would, I am certain, ensure compliance with the Bye-laws and give much needed instructions in the construction of drains and sanitary appliances. 7. Section 64 of the Ordinance appears to me to prohibit absolutely the use of water closets but if this is not so I think a Bye-law could be framed stating the conditions under which such would be permitted with a minimum of 19 gallons per head in winter and an unlimited supply of water at other seasons. I think one of the most objectionable sanitary features of the Colony might be disposed of, especially as a complete and economical water closet can be provided for less money than is now paid by such householder per annum under the present system. This would necessitate of course certain alterations in the main drainage of the City but which present no insuperable obstacle. I have the honour to be, Sir, Your most obedient Servant, DEAR SIR, In answer to your letter of the 17th of September, I beg to make one or two suggestions with regard to the new Sanitary Bye-laws. In the copy of the Bye-laws sent to me, there is no clause providing for any ventilating pipe to a private drain, although the pipes are mentioned in the said Bye-laws. I think a paragraph might be inserted to the effect that "All new drains shall be provided with an iron ventilating pipe such pipe to be connected to the drain at its highest point." To HOGH MCCALLUM, Esq., Secretary to the Sanitary Board, &c., &c. $0. WM. ST. JOHN H. HANCOCK.
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12. All new drains shall be built and carried out in accordance with the provisious of Ordinance No. 24 of 1887 and of any Bye-laws made thereunder and if no written notices as provided for by Bye-laws Nos. 1 and 11 shall have been given to the Board it shall be lawful for the Board on dis- covering the existence of any such new drain to call upon the owner to open and uncover the same for the purpose of inspection and should such new drain prove upon inspection to be defective either in respect of design, workmanship or materials it shall be so taken up and altered as to be made to comply with the Bye-laws. 13. Any person carrying out excavations for new drainage works on any premises contiguout to a public thoroughfare shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night. 131. Any person about to open any public road or street for the purpose of connecting any private drain shall give three clear days' notice in writing of such intention to the Surveyor Genera[ and shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night. 14. If by any new drainage works any cesspool previously existing shall be done away with such cesspool shall be cleaned out and filled in with good fresh earth. 15. All works connected with the construction of new drains shall be carried out in stric, accordance with the plans and sectious previously passed by the Board and all such works shall be carried out in a proper and workmanliko manner and with good materials of their respective kinds and shall be subject during their progress to the continuous supervision of the Officers of the Boards appointed in that behalf and shall be completed in strict accordance with Ordinance No. 24 of 1887, and of any Bye-laws made therenader. 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 us before. 7th October, 1889. Drafted by DANBY & LEIGH, HONGKONG, 19th December, 1889. In reply to your letter dated 17th altimo with reference to drainage bye-laws we can only suggest as follows :- Clause 2.--One plan only necessary to accompany notice. Clause 3.-Seven days' notice to be made three days. Approved plan to be kept by Sanitary Surveyor notice ouly being given that such plan is approved. Clauses 4 and 5.-Unnecessary. Clause 11.-Three days' notice too long. Yours faithfully, BIRD & PALMER. HOGB MCCALLUM, Esq., Secretary, Sanitary Board. HONGKONG, October 9th, 1889. 84 I also think that some arrangement should be made about the method of draining the kitchens of the upper floors of Chinese houses other than the present system of earthenware down-pipes, and would suggest that they should be of metal, with distinct trapped and grated connections to each floor, or that the pipes should be of earthenware only between the different connections, and that a pattern connection should be made and kept in some part of the Office of the Sanitary Board where Contractors and others may see it. I might suggest that a plan of the City of Victoria, showing the sewers, should be circulated amongst the Architects of the Colony, so that in cases of new drains being laid, the position of the sewers would be known. H. MCCALLUM, Esq., SIR, Secretary to the Sanitary Board. Yours faithfully, A. DENISON. 3, BEACONSFIELD ARCADE, 5th November, 1889. 1. In reply to your letter No. 254 transmitting to me a copy of the Drainage Bye-laws made by the Sanitary Board and inviting my views as to the amendments in the same which I think might be made therein, I have much pleasure in complying with the request, with an expression of regret that my reply should have been, though unavoidably, delayed so long. 2. I should in the first place point out that the Ordinance itself (No. 24 of 1889) contains several sections which should have formed part of the Bye-laws; these sections (39 to 47, &c.) are, substantial- ly, extracted from the Model Bye-laws promulgated by the Local Government Board (sections 61 to 65). These sections contain most important instructions to the Builder and House-owner who frequently have no access to the Ordinance and I would suggest that these he extracted and cir- calated with the Bye-laws. As these sections form part of the Ordinance I refrain from suggesting any amendments. 58 3. The Bye-laws as they now stand appear to me to provide for drainage on the "Separate System the principle of which as I understand is not yet accepted for this Colony. I cannot after much practical experience of both Systems but regard the absolute separation of sewage from sur- face water, in the City of Victoris generally, as a serious mistake considering the physical features of a large portion of the drainage area and the facilities for disposing of its drainago. I am satisfied that certain portions of the City drainage namely the lower levels should be treated separately and for this the sections I refer to (4, 5 and 6) might properly apply; but I presume that without most conclusive reasons being given in favour of such an experimental scheme that the Sanitary Board will recognize only the combined system now in use so far as bouse-drainage is concerned. 4. There appears to me throughout the Bye-laws some confusion as to whom the Owner has to satisfy, in some cases it would appear to be the Board in others the Sanitary Surveyor. 5. I have made detailed notes upon a copy of the Bye-laws which I have the pleasure to sub- mit for the consideration of the Board as being more concise than stating the same here. 6. I would venture to suggest that the Board should in some convenient place prepare Models with the proper materials illustrating the application of each section of the Ordinance and Bye- laws where praticable; this would, I am certain, ensure compliance with the Bye-laws and give much needed instructions in the construction of drains and sanitary appliances. 7. Section 64 of the Ordinance appears to me to prohibit absolutely the use of water closets but if this is not so I think a Bye-law could be framed stating the conditions under which such would be permitted with a minimum of 19 gallons per head in winter and an ulimited supply of water at other seasons. I think one of the most objectional sanitary features of the Colony might be disposed of, especially as a complete and economical water closet can be provided for less money than is now paid by ouch householder per annum under the present system. This would necessitate of course certain alterations in the main drainage of the City but which present no insuperable obstacle. I have the honour to be, Sir, Your most obedient Sorvaut, DEAR SIR, In answer to your letter of the 17th of September, I beg to make one or two suggestions with regard to the new Sanitary Bye-laws. In the copy of the Bye-laws sent to me, there is no clause providing for any ventilating pipe to a private drain, although the pipes are mentioned in the said Bye-laws. I think a paragraph might be inserted to the effect that "All new drains shall be provided with an iron ventilating pipe such pipe to be couneeted to the drain at its highest point." To HOGH MCCALLUN, Esq., Secretary to the Sanitary Board, Se.. &c., $0. WM. ST. JOHN H. HANCOCK.
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12. All new drains shall be built and carried out in accordance with the provisious of Ordinance No. 24 of 1887 and of any Bye-laws made thereunder and if no written notices as provided for by Bye-laws Nos. 1 and 11 shall have been given to the Board it shall be lawful for the Board on dis- covering the existence of any such new drain to call upon the owner to open and uncover the same for the purpose of inspection and should such new drain prove upon inspection to be defective either in respect of design, workmanship or materials it shall be so taken up and altered as to be made to comply with the Bye-laws.

13. Any person carrying out excavations for new drainage works on any premises contiguout to a public thoroughfare shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night.

131. Any person about to open any public road or street for the purpose of connecting any private drain shall give three clear days' notice in writing of such intention to the Surveyor Genera[ and shall provide for the safety of the public by erecting a suitable hoarding and if necessary keep a watchman and lanterns during the night.

14. If by any new drainage works any cesspool previously existing shall be done away with such cesspool shall be cleaned out and filled in with good fresh earth.

15. All works connected with the construction of new drains shall be carried out in stric, accordance with the plans and sectious previously passed by the Board and all such works shall be carried out in a proper and workmanliko manner and with good materials of their respective kinds and shall be subject during their progress to the continuous supervision of the Officers of the Boards appointed in that behalf and shall be completed in strict accordance with Ordinance No. 24 of 1887, and of any Bye-laws made therenader.

16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 us before.

7th October, 1889.

Drafted by

DANBY & LEIGH,

HONGKONG, 19th December, 1889.

In reply to your letter dated 17th altimo with reference to drainage bye-laws we can only suggest as follows :-

Clause 2.--One plan only necessary to accompany notice.

Clause 3.-Seven days' notice to be made three days. Approved plan to be kept by Sanitary

Surveyor notice ouly being given that such plan is approved.

Clauses 4 and 5.-Unnecessary.

Clause 11.-Three days' notice too long.

Yours faithfully,

BIRD & PALMER.

HOGB MCCALLUM, Esq.,

Secretary, Sanitary Board.

HONGKONG, October 9th, 1889.

84

I also think that some arrangement should be made about the method of draining the kitchens of the upper floors of Chinese houses other than the present system of earthenware down-pipes, and would suggest that they should be of metal, with distinct trapped and grated connections to each floor, or that the pipes should be of earthenware only between the different connections, and that a pattern connection should be made and kept in some part of the Office of the Sanitary Board where Contractors and others may see it.

I might suggest that a plan of the City of Victoria, showing the sewers, should be circulated amongst the Architects of the Colony, so that in cases of new drains being laid, the position of the sewers would be known.

H. MCCALLUM, Esq.,

SIR,

Secretary to the Sanitary Board.

Yours faithfully,

A. DENISON.

3, BEACONSFIELD ARCADE, 5th November, 1889.

1. In reply to your letter No. 254 transmitting to me a copy of the Drainage Bye-laws made

by the Sanitary Board and inviting my views as to the amendments in the same which I think might be made therein, I have much pleasure in complying with the request, with an expression of regret that my reply should have been, though unavoidably, delayed so long.

2. I should in the first place point out that the Ordinance itself (No. 24 of 1889) contains several sections which should have formed part of the Bye-laws; these sections (39 to 47, &c.) are, substantial- ly, extracted from the Model Bye-laws promulgated by the Local Government Board (sections 61 to 65). These sections contain most important instructions to the Builder and House-owner who frequently have no access to the Ordinance and I would suggest that these he extracted and cir- calated with the Bye-laws. As these sections form part of the Ordinance I refrain from suggesting any amendments.

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3. The Bye-laws as they now stand appear to me to provide for drainage on the "Separate System the principle of which as I understand is not yet accepted for this Colony. I cannot after much practical experience of both Systems but regard the absolute separation of sewage from sur- face water, in the City of Victoris generally, as a serious mistake considering the physical features of a large portion of the drainage area and the facilities for disposing of its drainago. I am satisfied that certain portions of the City drainage namely the lower levels should be treated separately and for this the sections I refer to (4, 5 and 6) might properly apply; but I presume that without most conclusive reasons being given in favour of such an experimental scheme that the Sanitary Board will recognize only the combined system now in use so far as bouse-drainage is concerned.

4. There appears to me throughout the Bye-laws some confusion as to whom the Owner has to satisfy, in some cases it would appear to be the Board in others the Sanitary Surveyor.

5. I have made detailed notes upon a copy of the Bye-laws which I have the pleasure to sub-

mit for the consideration of the Board as being more concise than stating the same here.

6. I would venture to suggest that the Board should in some convenient place prepare Models with the proper materials illustrating the application of each section of the Ordinance and Bye- laws where praticable; this would, I am certain, ensure compliance with the Bye-laws and give much needed instructions in the construction of drains and sanitary appliances.

7. Section 64 of the Ordinance appears to me to prohibit absolutely the use of water closets but if this is not so I think a Bye-law could be framed stating the conditions under which such would be permitted with a minimum of 19 gallons per head in winter and an ulimited supply of water at other seasons. I think one of the most objectional sanitary features of the Colony might be disposed of, especially as a complete and economical water closet can be provided for less money than is now paid by ouch householder per annum under the present system. This would necessitate of course certain alterations in the main drainage of the City but which present no insuperable obstacle.

I have the honour to be,

Sir,

Your most obedient Sorvaut,

DEAR SIR,

In answer to your letter of the 17th of September, I beg to make one or two suggestions with regard to the new Sanitary Bye-laws.

In the copy of the Bye-laws sent to me, there is no clause providing for any ventilating pipe to a private drain, although the pipes are mentioned in the said Bye-laws. I think a paragraph might be inserted to the effect that "All new drains shall be provided with an iron ventilating pipe such pipe to be couneeted to the drain at its highest point."

To

HOGH MCCALLUN, Esq.,

Secretary to the Sanitary Board,

Se..

&c.,

$0.

WM. ST. JOHN H. HANCOCK.

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